If you don’t think inaccessible technology is morally wrong, or just incompetent leadership, maybe consider the bottom line.

That’s part of what Think Company accessibility specialist Mikey Ilagan told Marketplace reporter Lizzie O’Leary about the hurdles that often stand between people with disabilities and tech products.

“I think what usually motivates people to get going is the threat of litigation,” said Ilagan. “So, it’s cheaper and easier to make sure your experiences are accessible now, rather than having to fix it anyway and then encountering some sort of lawsuit and whatever that may cost or entail.”

(Related: Here’s what organizations like Comcast, Think Company and the Overbrook School for the Blind are doing to ensure tech works for everyone.)

Read the full interview or listen to it below: